How to Read a Solar Net Metering Bi-Directional Utility Meter

When you get a grid-interactive solar electric system installed in Southwest Florida, FPL or LCEC will replace your standard meter with a bi-directional meter. This meter records electricity flow in both direction — to an from the electric grid — and the net amount of energy consumed since it was installed. This process is known as Net Metering, and it allows the utility to bill you for just the net amount of energy you consume.

There are a few different meter styles, but they all work essentially the same way. There is a LCD display that shows dots moving to the right when you are receiving electricity from the grid, and to the left when you are delivering electricity to the grid. The speed the dots move indicates the rate at which electricity is flowing. Here is how you can read the numerical parts of your meter display, which rotates between various readings:

This meter shows that the customer has delivered 15,170 kWh to the utility grid since it was installed.
This meter shows that the customer has received 15,170 kWh from the utility grid since it was installed. This is utility energy use in excess of the solar energy produced and consumed at the time of production.

DEL (of DL):  This is the kilowatt-hours of electricity delivered from the grid since the meter was installed. It indicates energy delivered to you in excess of solar energy production.

REC (or RC): This is the kilowatt-hours of electricity you sent to the grid since the meter was installed. It indicates energy produced by your solar energy system at times in excess of what was used in your home or business.

NET (or NT): This is the net amount of energy consumed from the grid. It represents the total delivered minus the total received since your meter was installed.

To determine your monthly usage, just like a standard meter, you need to look at these numbers relative to your last meter reading, which is shown on your bill. The numbers do not reset at each meter reading, but they tally up the cumulative electricity flows since the meter was installed.

There may be other numbers listed on the meter, which typically indicate demand, which is the maximum amount of power consumed consistently over a given time-frame, usually 15 or 30 minutes. Residential and small commercial customers do not have to worry about demand, as demand charge is not a component of the way they are billed. This is sometimes denoted as MAX (or MX).

In addition to reading your meter, your bill will have valuable information about your cumulative net meter, delivered, and received readings. It will also tell you how much, if any, electricity you have banked for future use.

November 2023 Update

FPL has started to roll out a new Aclara brand bidirectional meter that reads differently than their older meters. It provides a received and delivered figure, but does not show the net amount. You would need to do some math to calculate that. Here is a guide on how to read a Aclara Bi-directional meter.

Aclara Meter Net Meter - How to Read

 

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  • Bryanpalty says:
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    Jason: Great explanations! Thanks for enlightening us. My meter cycles through 6 values. #1 minus #2 always equals 7, the value constantly shown at #3. These numbers are still in daylight and change at night, so I know they are measuring power delivered. Likewise, #4-#5=#6, and #6 is a constant 1. These numbers show what I’m delivering to the grid because it exceeds what I’m using during the day (this will be my first complete billing cycle, but I still have a surplus!). My question is what is the difference in these numbers showing? Is it a value for a constant load or what? All values are Kw H.
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    I just went through the process of installing solar on my home. The process went surprisingly smooth, but I ended up (accidentally) over-sizing the system. Admittedly, it didn’t get energized until the first week of September – so I didn’t get to see how the solar generation compares to consumption during the summer, but, the utility companies don’t really want you to have your own solar system. The new tariff for FPL (and I assume all the other Florida IOUs), has a minimum charge of $25 (not including tax, and franchise fees, etc.). So, when you have a base charge of $9.48, you get a bill for $25 any way (technically $29.96 when you add in taxes and fees). So what you need to consider is the cost of that minimum bill. Essentially, you are going to pay $15.52 for electricity whether you use it or not. AT $0.123/kWh (current residential rate on FPL), essentially that is 126 kWh every month that you are buying. The point is, if you are installing solar to help reduce pollution in the environment, install all you want (The utility company is allowed to limit you). If you are doing it to save money, the mandatory minimum bill needs to be included in your calculations. The other thing to remember is over-production (producing more than what you are using) is not payed to you at the residential rate of 12.3 cents/kWh, but is at the average cost of generation – which is ~3 cents.
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    Hi Jason, I recently had a small solar system installed. We have an analog meter which actually goes both ways. I pay FPL each month for a meter reader to come out. It’s the old school non digital type meter. FPL told me I can have an analog bidirectional meter, but that mine is not that. I know for a fact it is because it was tested after installation and we not only saw the dial going in reverse, but also the black dial slightly went back as well before the system was turned back off when the install team wrapped up. The last time FPL swapped our analog meter with a digital meter, it arched in the middle of the night. We have an older house and I am concerned about them swapping out the meter again and don’t understand why we cannot keep our analog meter which goes both ways.
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    I also believe we are being billed for electricity we send to the grid. We have a farmhouse with battery backup, and our Combox monitor reported we used 600 kWh in January with no one there, while the power company stated we used 1400 kWh, with a mild January and thermostat set at 58 degrees. We sent 700 kWh into the grid and that looks fairly accurate according to our Combox. I went back several months and the results are consistent; the company overstates our use from the grid. I’m beginning to wonder if the “smart” meter gets confused by energy we put in the grid and counts it as use. On 1 March I called the company, they reported 13 kWh of use and 21 kWh of production, while our Combox device reported 9 kWh of use and 26 kWh of production. The company came out and switched our meter with a temporary one in order to test it. I think they will say it is normal, while I believe it is a flawed design that confuses a portion of use with production. Once I get the result of the meter test, and if they say it is normal, I plan to disable selling to the grid, and allow the system to only service load. If I am right in my suspicions, then our use as measured by the Combox should approximate use as measured by the company
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    Hey Jason, I sure am happy there is an expert like you that’s available to answer questions. I’ve been reading previous answers/questions and I see something different on my meter. I have a new Aclara Bidirectional. There six screens. No del or rec. One screen shows all segments on (test screen) with letters EOI. Next shows kW and A under that with the left/right moving boxes and a number 4.88 with an up arrow under it. Next screen shows kW h and A under that. Moving boxes, 00037 with an up arrow under it. Next screen, same information as the one previously mentioned above. Next screen, the word CLOSED and moving boxes. Next screen, 246.3 with a letter V under it and A under that. Moving boxes on all screens and a light symbol a letter A in it. What are these screens? Is the documentation some where? I like to compare data on the meter to the data on my app. Thx
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    What does ADL mean on my net meter? I can’t find an answer in anything I have read. The number matches the number on TOTAL, but they are displayed separately.
  • Jo E Williams says:

    What does the abbreviation rdl mean on my net meter? It is the same number 1032 as the Total. Today is the first time it has appeared on the meter.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      RDL probably stands for remote data logger. It probably doesn’t have an important meaning for your purposes.

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    I have FPL Northwest Florida and they installed a Flexnet 503x meter. It has two readouts CLT101 and CLT201 with a KW reading after each one. My solar system is showing me sending power to the grid by the arrows going left but I am having a hard time understanding what the CLT codes mean. I know I have an issue that the installers have to come address because my solar system app is showing production and consumption mirroring each other throughout the day.
  • AL says:

    Jason,

    Going on the math you did for Damaris makes complete sense for him, but when I utilize that same math technique it doesn’t work or explain how I was billed.

    This is my first bill since my reading was installed so it should be clear numbers.

    Current Meter Reading: 1006
    Previous Meter Reading: N/A

    Example:
    DEL from Grid: 1006
    REC from Solar: 771
    Usage Bill: 804
    Solar Panel Production: 1575

    Based on the logic provided to Damaris:
    1006 (Delivered from grid) – 771 (sent back to grid) = 235 consumed in excess

    235 consumed in excess + 1575 solar panel production = 1810 total consumption. Okay so where does the 804 KWh that I’m being billed for come into play?

    This appears to be wrong because my average consumption during these high months prior to Solar has be 2250-2450 KWh per month.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Hi AL,

      I don’t have your bill in front of me, but my guess would be that the difference is the build usage from your previous meter. I assume the billing period encompasses time on your prior meter and your new meter.

      Jason

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    I want to share a message that has been spreading all over the internet that concerns the times we are living in. Whether you believe in God or not, this is a must read message! We can see throughout time how we have been slowly conditioned to come to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Would it surprise you to know that the Bible foretold of this event? Don’t believe me? This may be the most imporant message you will read in these times…please do not ignore this! This messsage reveals what the Mark of the Beast is, and the meaning behind counting a number people have been pondering for centuries, 666. This message also shares why Barack Obama is the Antichrist. This is truly a message from God! In the Revelation of Jesus Christ given to the apostle John, we read: “He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666” (Revelation 13:16-18 NKJV). Referring to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why? Revelation 13:17 tells us that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that says we must have the mark to buy or sell. So, it deduces itself to this conclusion. These verses could not be referring to something spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right-hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one “OR” the other. It once again deduces itself to this conclusion. Also, how could you determine who truly has a spiritual mark so that they may buy or sell? And, as you will read further in this article, to have the mark of the beast is the same to have the name of the beast, or the number of its name. You will begin to see even more clearly why this mark cannot be something purely spiritual. Here is where it really starts to come together. It is shocking how accurate the Bible is concerning the RFID microchip. These are notes from a man named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this microchip in the late 1960’s. “Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about a one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the world—a microchip that could be inserted under the skin with a hypodermic needle (a quick, convenient method that would be gradually accepted by society). Carl Sanders, with a team of engineers behind him, with U.S. grant monies supplied by tax dollars, took on this project and designed a microchip that is powered by a lithium battery, rechargeable through the temperature changes in our skin. Without the knowledge of the Bible (Brother Sanders was not a Christian at the time), these engineers spent one-and-a-half-million dollars doing research on the best and most convenient place to have the microchip inserted. Guess what? These researchers found that the forehead and the back of the hand (the two places Revelation says the mark will go) are not just the most convenient places, but are also the only viable places for rapid, consistent temperature changes in the skin to recharge the lithium battery. The microchip is approximately seven millimeters in length, .75 millimeters in diameter, about the size of a grain of rice. It is capable of storing pages upon pages of information about you. All your general history, work history, crime record, health history, and financial data can be stored on this chip. Brother Sanders believes that this microchip, which he regretfully helped design, is the “mark” spoken about in Revelation 13:16-18. The original Greek word for “mark” is “charagma,” which means a “scratch or etching.” It is also interesting to note that the number 666 is actually a word in the original Greek. The word is “chi xi stigma,” with the last part, “stigma,” also meaning “to stick or prick.” Carl believes this refers to a hypodermic needle (see photo). Mr. Sanders asked a Boston Medical Center doctor what would happen if the lithium contained within the RFID microchip leaked into the body. The doctor responded that if the microchip broke inside a human body, the lithium would cause a severe and painful wound filled with pus. This is what the book of Revelation says: “And the first (angel) went, and poured out his vial on the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore on the men which had the mark of the beast, and on them which worshipped his image” (Revelation 16:2). THE HIDDEN MEANING BEHIND THE NUMBER 666 REVEALED! What I first want to mention, before I share what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me concerning the number of the beast, is that God confirms in threes. We can see this throughout scripture: “For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one” (1 John 5:7 NKJV). “and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures” (1 Corinthians 15:4 NKJV). “…Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!” (Revelation 4:8 NKJV). There are many more examples, but I thought I would just share three of them to make the point. Examining Revelation 13:16,17,18, the first group of three I would like to point out is that the mark of the beast is described in three separate verses, 16, 17 and 18. The next three I see is in verse 16, “He causes all…” is followed by three contrasting categories of people, 1 – “both small and great, 2 – rich and poor, 3 – free and slave…”. Then unto verse 17, it opens with, “and that no one may buy or sell except one who has…”, followed by three explanations of what one must have to buy or sell, 1 – “…the mark 2 – or the name of the beast, 3 – or the number of his name”. Now unto verse 18, we read “Let him who has understanding calculate…”, which is followed by, 1 – “the number of the beast, 2 – for it is the number of a man: 3 – His number is 666”. The last three I see is the number “6” being used three times in a row. The reason I’m making this point about God confirming in three is because it is the key to unlocking how to calculate the number 666. Throughout the centuries there have been people trying to calculate numbers based on titles and names that come up to the number 666 to identify one person, the Antichrist; but from Revelation 13:18, I do not see where God is telling us to count up to 666, but rather to count the number of the beast. This number is identified as 666. So the verse is telling us to count the number 666. What does it mean to count? It means to add up. So how could we add up 666? Remember my previous point about God confirming in threes is key to unlocking the number 666. So logically, what would be the best way to count the number 666? To count it equally by using the rule of three based off the number. We cannot count it equally as 600+60+6, this would also bring us back to the start. We cannot count it as 600+600+600, or 60+60+60 because there are no zeroes in between or at the end of 666. The only logical option is 6+6+6=18. What is interesting is that the verse that reveals for us to count the number itself is verse 18 (there a total of 18 verses in Revelation Chapter 13). Another interesting point is the only two other combinations (making a total of three possible combinations) for placing a “+” symbol in between 666 are: 66+6=72 and 6+66=72. Add both 72’s together and you get 144. Why the number 144 is worth our attention is because the verse following Revelation 13:18 is the first time in the Bible where the 144,000 are being described in detail: “Then I looked, and behold, a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His Father’s name written on their foreheads…” (Revelation 14:1). Now if you add up all three numbers from counting 666 by moving the “+” symbol around, it would be 72+72+18=162. What is compelling about the number 162, is, if you divide 144,000 by 162, you get 888. The name of Jesus in Greek gematria adds up to 888. The New Testament was originally written in the Greek language. Revelation 14:1 not only mentions the 144,000, but also the Lamb who is Jesus. Now what is interesting about the number for Jesus, 888, is that if you apply the same formula that was used to count 666, you get 8+8+8=24. Why the number 24? Revelation chapter 4 tells us there are 24 elders seated around the throne of God. This is the same throne where Jesus sits. Now if you take: 8+8+8=24 8+88=96 88+8=96 you get 24+96+96=216. Take 144,000 divided by 216 and you get 666. Remember that this was the same exact formula we used to count the number 666 that ultimately brought forth the number 888. Here is a quick recap to demonstrate how this formula confirms itself as being the true way to count 666: 1: 6+6+6=18 > 66+6=72 > 6+66=72 > 18+72+72=162 2: 144,000 divided by 162=888 3: 8+8+8=24 > 88+8=96 > 8+88=96 > 24+96+96=216 4: 144,000 divided by 216=666 1: 6+6+6=18 > 66+6=72… As you can see, it is perpetual. And remember that we consistently used a formula that worked in threes being the number that God uses for confirmation. Here is another mathematical confirmation: 144,000 divided by 6, divided by 6, divided by 6 (6,6,6) equals 666. So what could this mean? Well we know in this world we are identified by numbers in various forms. From our birth certificate to social security, as well as our drivers license; being identified based on a system of ruler ship. So it is possible that this RFID microchip will contain a new identification that has a total of 18 characters (6+6+6). “here the wisdom is, the one having the mind let him calculate the number of the wild beast, number for “of human” it is, and the number of it 666″ (Revelation 13:1, Greek Translation). The Greek word “anthrōpos” being used in verse 18 where it says “of human” is the Greek strongs concordance G444. The first two definitions of the word are “a human being, whether male or female”, and, “generically, to include all human individuals”. Could the number of the beast apply to all mankind? In the Greek (the New Testament was originally written in the Greek language), and other translations, you will notice the beast is described as an “it”, instead of “him”. The reason I’m making this point is because when a translation says “His number is 666”, this would imply a singular person, the Antichrist. But by saying “the number of it 666”, implies that it is of the beast system as a whole. We can know the number of the beast cannot be to identify products (like a new barcode) to buy or sell because scripture says we cannot buy or sell without the number of the beast. What am I getting at? There will be instances where you could buy something someone made themselves and it wouldn’t have a store branded identification on it. But for this number to be in our chips, that is where it must be to conclude ultimately that we cannot buy or sell without having the number of the beast. As previously mentioned in Revelation 13:18, the number of the beast (6+6+6=18) is a “human number”, definition “generically, to include all human individuals”. Truly a great division is taking place between good and evil—both spiritually and physically (riots, unrest, politics). If you take the current year 2020 and divide it by the number 666 (known for its satanic implications) you will get the number 30330. This number 30330 happens to be the number used to vote for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Freaky? And one thing is certain, 2020 is truly being divided by Satan. He is the master deceiver and spreader of chaos. Jesus calls him the father of lies. So I looked up this number 30330 concerning Joe Biden, and I found this information: If you send a text to that number (at that time), you would get a response asking to support Joe’s campaign to take down Donald Trump, with one part in caps saying “CHIP IN >>” pointing to a link to go and donate. “CHIP IN”? Obama has used this phrase in the past on his twitter and people believe it is a subliminal message to receive the mark of the beast, that is to say the implantable RFID microCHIP that will go IN our body. Go to: https://2ruth.org to see all the proof! Is your name written in the Lamb’s book of life? Jesus says that we must be born again to enter the kingdom of God in the Gospel of John chapter 3. “Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name” (Revelation 14:9-11). BARACK OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST: In the Islamic religion they have man called the Mahdi who is known as their messiah of whom they are waiting to take the stage. There are many testimonies from people online who believe this man will be Barack Obama who is to be the biblical Antichrist based off dreams they have received. I myself have had strange dreams about him like no other person. So much so that I decided to share this information. He came on stage claiming to be a Christian with no affiliation to the Muslim faith… “In our lives, Michelle and I have been strengthened by our Christian faith. But there have been times where my faith has been questioned — by people who don’t know me — or they’ve said that I adhere to a different religion, as if that were somehow a bad thing,” – Barack Obama …but was later revealed by his own family members that he indeed is a devout Muslim. So what’s in the name? The meaning of someones name can say a lot about a person. God throughout history has given names to people that have a specific meaning tied to their lives. How about the name Barack Obama? Let us take a look at what may be hiding beneath the surface… “And He (Jesus) said to them (His disciples), ‘I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven'” (Luke 10:18). In the Hebrew language we can uncover the meaning behind the name Barack Obama. Barack, also transliterated as Baraq, in Hebrew is: lightning baraq – Biblical definition: From Strongs H1299; lightning; by analogy a gleam; concretely a flashing sword: – bright, glitter (-ing, sword), lightning. (Strongs Hebrew word H1300 baraq baw-rawk’) Barak ‘O’bamah, The use of bamah is used to refer to the “heights” of Heaven. bamah – Biblical definition: From an unused root (meaning to be high); an elevation: – height, high place, wave. 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Jesus stands alone among the other religions who say to rightly weigh the scales of good and evil, and to make sure you have done more good than bad in this life. Is this how we conduct ourselves justly in a court of law? Bearing the image of God, is this how we project this image into our reality? Our good works cannot save us. If we step before a judge, being guilty of a crime, the judge will not judge us by the good that we have done, but rather the crimes we have committed. If we as fallen humanity, created in God’s image, pose this type of justice, how much more a perfect, righteous, and Holy God? God has brought down His moral law’s through the 10 commandments given to Moses at Mt. Sinai. These laws were not given so we may be justified, rather that we may see the need for a savior. 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  • Greg Snipe says:

    My issue is my new net meter does NOT have any of the codes (01, 04, etc) so how do I know WTHeck is what? The arrow points to the left during the sunny days, it’s a blue label AMI/SSN meter, CL 200, 240V, 3W, FM2S

    Do I call FPL for instructions? Their web site leaves a lot to be desired and I cannot find the meter searching (maybe using the wrong IDs)

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Hi Greg,

      FPL does not use meter codes like others are describing in the comments. They use DEL, REC, and NET screens to denote the figures as explained in this article. If you do not see your meter cycling between these screens, you may not have a net meter installed. Did you sign all of the electronic interconnection paperwork and have your meter swapped? The arrow pointing to the left means you are sending power back to them and the arrow right means you are consuming power from them. If you have an arrow, that indicates you might not have the correct meter installed. It’s hard to tell without more information.

      Jason

  • Jeffrey Van Brusselen says:

    Can I have solar panels installed on my patio roof and tied in with micro invertors and then run the ac current produced to a grid cutoff switch (linked to mains power) and then directly into a net meter, bypassing consumption and earning credits for delivered power ????

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Hi Jeffrey,

      That’s not how it works, and I’m not sure why you would want to do that anyway. The electrons don’t know where to go. You can’t tell them to go to the grid and not to your home. But it doesn’t matter. The whole purpose of a net meter is to reduce your consumption, which is compensated at a much higher rate than excess energy you deliver to the grid (annually).

      As for whether you can put panels on your “patio” roof, that depends on the structure. It may be possible, but it also may not be advisable. Flat roof installations are more costly and risky, and flat roofs generally require more frequent maintenance. A pitched roof is your best option.

      It sounds like you need a consultation with a professional. If you are in our service area, please contact us and we can set up a time.

  • Gregory Paulson says:
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    Hi Jason, you were very kind to help me last month when FPL “mistakenly” did not give me credit for electric returned to the grid. Your email prompted them to correct it and they indicated it was an internal setting error on their end. Well, they did it again. I probably sound like a conspiracy theory nut but between their aggressive anti-solar legislation they managed to bribe through the house, and their repeated refusal to utilize their own net metering properly, I am wondering what I can do next to get them to truly start doing what they’re supposed to. I sent them an email with my app’s energy consumed/produced numbers requesting they correct it, again. I am left feeling like FPL is playing games when they could just do the right thing. Please let me know the best course of action I can take so they actually correct the problem. Thank you Greg Cooper City, FL
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    My bi-directional meter displays 5 different numbers. The first number is equal to the sum of the second and forth number, so I can assume that these numbers are for the Received energy from the grid, the Delivered energy to the grid and the Net energy or the difference between the two earlier numbers. However, there is a fifth number that goes up significantly during the time from 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM. This would seem to be related to energy produced. All of these numbers only go up in value from each day to the next , so they are not numbers indicating instantaneous power. The third number is always 5.496. Can you explain these numbers? Tom lee

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Hi Thomas,

      It’s hard to answer your question without knowing the meter type you have and your utility. The fifth number is likely a time of use metric that measures electricity used either on-peak or off-peak. Depending on where you are, it may or may not be used for billing purposes. It’s entirely possible that the number is unused for your billing purposes if you are on straight netmetering without time of use billing. The third number is likely your peak demand. It measures the maximum power draw during a given time period. This would only be used if you are on a demand billing schedule, which is more common for commercial customers.

      I hope that helps!

      Jason

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  • Thomas Jackson says:
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    Hi Jason, Good Blog, you have provided many good answers to folks questions. I am also on Duke, they stated they have to manually read bi-directional meters. That is possibly the reason for the not in sync question that Deodatta had in the Oct 2019 question. My meter shows net and produced n-p=delivered. Thanks keep it up.
  • Janice Jijina says:

    I have 15kwH solar panels and 2 Tesla power walls. The Tesla app shows that I generate more solar than I use many days, and overall each month. Yet I got a bill from FPL for 600 kWh use last month. How do I find out if the issue is the Tesla app or the FPL meter? Thank you.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Janice,
      First, you most likely have a photovoltaic system rated at 15kW, not kWh. Solar panel systems are rated in kilowatts, a measure of power, not kilowatt-hours, a measure of energy (power over time). In Florida, a 15kW system will produce in the region of 65 kWh a day or almost 2,000 kWh per month on average, assuming it is optimally oriented and shade-free.

      Now that we have that straight, I’ll go out on a limb and tell you that FPL’s meter is correct. There is virtually no chance that they are billing you incorrectly. Once a bi-directional meter is installed at your home, it accurately measures energy in and out of your home.

      So that leaves your Tesla monitoring as the likely problem. This is either an installation error or a programming error on the part of your installer. Based on the fact that you have two Powerwalls, it is likely that you are not backing up your whole home. Your batteries probably back up critical loads in your home. When installed in this configuration your installer must take the energy monitoring current transducers and relocate them to your main service conductors to measure the total consumption in your home (or install additional meters to measure loads that are not backed up). You might have a pool subpanel or other subset of your electrical system that is not being monitored for consumption. Even if you are backing up your whole home, your Tesla Gateway might not be programmed correctly to identify all loads in your home.

      You should get your installer involved, and if they cannot help you, find another qualified (certified) Tesla contractor to help you.

  • Jerry Jelincic says:

    I’m curious what happens with the excess power being sent to the grid during a power failure. Would it be consumed by my neighbors closest to my meter? If insufficient would it cause a brown out or harm their appliances?

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Hi Jerry,

      During a power failure there is no excess power being sent to the grid. The inverter(s) that solar panels are connected to will cease to provide power immediately upon loss of grid voltage. Unless you have batteries, you will also lose power in your home. Grid-interactive solar energy systems are intended to only operate in parallel with the grid. The electronics prevent the flow of power when the utility grid goes down.

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    Jason, maybe you can help my conundrum. I had 57 solar panels installed and running since mid-November 2019 and have been studying them ever since. I believe my local power company, Eversource, is charging me for some of my solar production (total energy used by the house) instead of the net amount consumed. Eversource says they only use #4 and #10 numbers on the screen, and don’t use #5 or #7. I believe the OpenWay by Itron meter accounts for Total kW(#4), Total grid(#5), Total solar produced under the threshold of sending out to the grid(#7) and total excess sent to the grid(#10). I only have a problem with using #4. If my assumption is correct, I am paying for some of the sun’s energy represented by #4.

    Unfortunately, the solar company, RGS, went bankrupt in January, and I’m having a hard time getting ahold of the installer(subcontractor company- Skyline Solar) for comment. RGS sent me references with lots of information, however the all important guide to the bidirectional meter was supposed to be in “Appendix A,” which was blank at the time, and I have no company representative to help me there.

    Eversource did email reply my problem and said it was possible that the installer “incorrectly wired something in your circuit breaker panel.” have you ever heard of this? I have obsessed over the production and numbers and billing, and I think I am correct that I’m actually paying for some of the solar production!!

    • Spencer Shorkey says:

      Hi Mike,
      Can you believe it, I have the same problem. Something has got to be wired incorrectly. Super frustrating, but thanks for the helpful comment.

      • Jason Szumlanski says:

        Mike and Spencer: I am afraid it’s just not possible to wire it incorrectly, guys. Let’s say it was wired on the utility side of the meter. If that were the case, it would not record any backfeed to the grid. If it’s wired on the customer side of the meter and it was wired “wrong,” it would not work at all. Can the meter be programmed incorrectly? Sure. Could their software be interpreting the results back at the office? Sure. But this doesn’t sound like a wiring problem at all.

        If you want to send me some pictures, email to: jason+nm@floridasolardesigngroup.com

        You can send me a copy of your bill if you want also, and I’d be happy to take a look at whatever system monitoring you have in place (if any). I’m curious for sure, especially with two people asking, but I doubt there is anything wrong.

        • Jason Szumlanski says:

          Quick update – I received confirmation from Mike that the 4 and 10 readings are all that matter for netmetering. The others are just time-of-use and demand charge readings.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Hi Michael,

      It sounds like you are close to your answer.

      #4 represents energy that your utility has delivered to you. The arrow points to the right when this is happening. That means you are consuming more energy than you are producing. This would be the case at night and when there isn’t enough sun to meet all of your demands.

      #10 represents energy that the utility has received from you. The arrow points to the left when this is happening. This is when you have excess solar power and it is being credited to you.

      To figure out how much you are billed, you need to know each number at the time the meter is read, which is tricky, because they will not tell you exactly when that happened. The numbers are cumulative since your meter was installed. So, for example, if your #4 reads 1000 and your #10 reads 600, then you should have been billed for 400 kilowatt-hours since your meter was installed. Let’s look at another example:

      At the end of billing period 1, the cumulative numbers are:
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      #10 600
      Cumulative net would be 400.

      At the end of billing period 2, the cumulative numbers are:
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      #10 1300
      Cumulative net would be 700. Therefore, you will be billed for 300 kilowatt-hours (700 previous minus 400 current).

      There is a document explaining Eversource’s meter reading FAQ here: https://www.eversource.com/content/docs/default-source/builders-contractors/ct-net-metering-faq.pdf

      It would be very rare, actually very difficult, for a contractor to install solar panels in a way that defeats the proper operation of a utility meter. It’s virtually impossible for that to happen. It looks like you are probably in Connecticut, so it’s a long drive from Florida for me to help you, but feel free to ask additional questions if there is anything I can do for you. You can also send pictures me. I’ll send you an email shortly.

  • Mike Russell says:

    Jason,
    I have an FPL net meter on my house for solar power. I’m having trouble finding someone that can explain what the meter is telling me. I understand DEL. REC and TEST, but there’s a MAX and I’ve seen it as high as 10.50KW and as low as 5.29KW. Is this the amount my panels are producing or the amount that FPL is allowing me to send to them? My system is only a 6KW as I’m in a ICF home and My average before panels about 6KW. Thanks in advance for helping if you can.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Mik: MAX is irrelevant for you. This is the maximum average load (instantaneous power consumption) for the day taken over a 15 or 30-minute interval, depending on how the meter is programmed. This is for customers who are on a demand charge rate schedule (typically commercial utility customers). It has nothing to do with solar production and no usable value for residential customers.

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  • Jason Szumlanskil says:

    Damaris,

    Because there were times when you were producing power when you could not consume it all in your home, so your meter spun backwards and you sent 272 back to the grid. The meter spins forward or backward depending on which way energy is flowing. When your demand is low and production is high, the meter spins backwards. Do utility records that and offsets it with your net consumption. That’s how net metering works. The numbers appear correct to me.

    If your concern is that you thought your bill would be lower and you don’t think you’re producing enough, that would be a question for your solar contractor. Maybe they misrepresented how much energy your system will really produce. That is a rampant problem in our industry.

  • Damaris Silvestre says:

    But I don’t understand. How is it that I consumed 2229 and produced 1036 but still managed to send 272 back to the grid. I would think that I would have consumed and produced 1036 – not sent anything back to the grid — and then I would have been billed 1465.

    Meter Reading
    Current reading is 6105
    Previous reading -4640

  • Damaris Silvestre says:

    I do not understand how FPL calculates production and consumption when they claim they don’t know either. Even though on my FPL Bill they report a consumption amount — the math that they come up with after that is very confusing and I don’t know if they are being deceptive or not. Here’s an example:

    1036 KWh produced (# I gave them)
    272 KWh sent back to the grid (on my FPL bill)
    =764 KWh consumend by house
    1465 KWh delivered by FPL
    = 2229 Total KWh consumed === this is where I have difficulty understanding — doesn’t the meter show how much KWh I consumed? Why do they use this crazy math to jack up my energy consumption when my solar energy meter (app) shows that I only consumed 981.1 KWh.

    Can you please help me understand this ?????

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Damarius, your solar contractor should really be explaining this to you, but I will try to help.

      Your meter only knows how much EXCESS solar you are producing (excess solar energy production that was not concurrently consumed by your home).

      Considered another way, your meter only knows how much consumption you have from the utility. It has no idea how much solar energy you use concurrently with production.

      The numbers make perfect sense. Reading between the lines in your question, your previous DELIVERED reading was 4640. Your current DELIVERED reading was 6105. That means the utility delivered 1465 kWh to your home either at night or when you did not have enough solar production to meet your needs. They also credited you for 272 kWh of energy that you sent back to the grid at times when you were producing power but not using it in the home (you did not provide your previous and current RECEIVED numbers, but I understand the difference is 272 kWh). Therefore you were billed for 1465 – 272 = 1193 kWh. So 1193 kWh was the amount of energy you consumed in excess of what your solar panels produced. If your monitoring system says you produced 1036 kWh for the same period, your actual total consumption was 1193 + 1036 = 2229 kWh. You would have had a bill around $250 if you didn’t have solar panels.

  • Damaris Silvestre says:

    My current reading is 6105
    my previous reading -4640

    and my KWh used was totaled as 1193

    Does this make any sense to you?

    According to your explanation above – the negative number indicates that I am producing more than what I am consuming (which according to my solar calculator I did) However, FPL billed me $127.22 on this bill.

    Can you explain this to me. PLEASE.

    and thank you!!!!

  • deodatta V BENDRE says:

    My meter shows ” Not in sync” What does it mean? My meter is bidirectional installed by Duke Energy.
    Does “current received” means excess current received by Utility grid?.
    Duke energy is charging me for the difference power consumed and energy received.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      I do not know what “not in sync” means for sure, but that is probably a network issue with your smart meter not transmitting data to the utility. Current received would be energy the utility received from you. It is also from the utility’s perspective. “Delivered” would be energy delivered to you.

      • Damaris Silvestre says:

        Or your example electric bill from April 2018. Can you tell me how many KHh your panels produced? I’m trying to figure out my production vs. what FPL is billing me.

        Thank you,
        Damaris

  • Dale Fenwick says:

    Jason, First, thanks for the explanation. My Net Meter was installed last week. We were not home for a couple of days and the the readings this AM were: DL 00058. RC 00065. (When the meter was installed both readings were zero).

    I agree with your advice to Ken, but only if he is buying power from a utility that is required to provide one-for-one credit for power produced vs power purchased.

    My electric provider is SECO and, unlike the investor-owned utilities, they give me credit on my power bill for the value of the energy I send to their grid. They value my kWh at the same rate as they pay for power from thier commercial providers. In other words, I buy from SECO at the retail rate ($0.0928 per kWh), and they buy from me at wholesale ($0.0763 per kWh).

    This means it is cheaper for me to maximize the use of my power and minimize the use of SECO’s power. If I had a pool pump I would run it during the day. Likewise using other “controllable” energy using devices (washer, dryer, dishwasher, etc…).

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Hi Dale.

      Thanks for your input. This site and blog are specific to Southwest Florida where we do business. The Florida Net Metering Rule provides for one-for-one credit at the retail rate for investor owned utilities. Our only local utility providers are FPL and LCEC, the local cooperative. LCEC also provides a one-for-one credit. So long as their annual production does not exceed consumption, our local clients do not have the issue you describe.

      You could look into a battery solution that maximizes self-consumption, but that is a costly proposition, so you have to carefully consider whether there is a return on investment with that strategy. In Florida where utility rates are pretty low and there is no time of use metering, it usually does not make sense today. That doesn’t mean the economics will be the same in the future, however.

  • Elijah Fire says:

    I had a new bidirectional meter installed recently: it reads:Max 9.64 khw. Rec=66 and DEL=490.
    What am I to make of theses numbers since this will be my first bill? It only 14 days so far. What does the Max represent?
    I looked at my usage on FPL app and I am scared,literally at the figures projected as my monthly bills. It’s $88,256.25 and daily usage $3,675.25. As of today’s date $25,725.32 ? Are theses bills for real? So I call FPL? Last time I called they said that they haven’t got a bill for me yet?

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Elijah, don’t pay attention to the FPL projected figures on your first one or two bills using the online system. The numbers are completely inaccurate for some reason, and FPL has acknowledged this issue. Max is just your maximum power draw and is irrelevant for purposes of determining a residential utility bill. REC means the utility has received 66 kWh from you when you were producing excess power. DEL means they have delivered 490 kWh to you when you needed extra energy or at night. The net result is that you will be billed for 424 kWh, or about $45 in electricity. Projected out for 30 days that would be about $96 plus your ~$8 customer fee and taxes. It sounds like you are doing fine depending on what size system you installed and how much energy is was projected to cut off your bill.

      Note that the REC and DEL figures are cumulative since the meter was installed. Both numbers should continue to rise over time.

  • Sheik Mohamad says:

    Does it matter if you use one of your appliances during the night( when you are not producing) as against the day when you are producing Energy from the sunlight. My question for you, would it consume the same amount of energy?
    Thanks

  • Ken Gelinas says:

    Hello, this may sound like a silly question… but here goes.. I have a pool home.. is it better to run the pool off the solar panes during the day, or should I run it off the grid at night? Now I know the first response is… what’s the difference?
    My thinking is that the panels will have less of a load and send back more electricity to the grid, this giving me more to work with at night..
    sounds silly, but still questionable.. Thanks

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      It makes absolutely no difference. The net amount of energy used will be the same. Most pool pros would prefer that you run your pump during daylight hours for sanitization reasons. Also, pump noise at night may be a concern.

  • Eric A Pasqualetto says:

    On my power panel it shows the 3 numbers rec net and del what does it mean when the net is going up is that good or bad ? My del and del are going up around the same amount but the rec is not doing anything

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      If Net is going g up it simply means you are consuming more electricity that you are producing. If it goes down, you are sending excess electricity back to the grid. If Rec never goes up, you are always consuming all of the electricity you are producing, when you are producing it.

  • JK says:

    My new bidirectional meter does not have a net reading (or perhaps I am misreading something). It has DEL and REC, MAX and the 88888 test screen. Is it simple to say my net is DEL – REC? or should i return to school 🙂

  • John Britz says:

    Thank you for the explanation. This is a new system for me and was a little concerned about what I was told when contracting the placement of the panels versus what was later told by the inspector. I got the (RC) and (DL) mixed up on my own. I look forward to studying my first bill.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      No problem. There is no shortage of shady contractors out there. But we have our fair share of issues with utility companies, too. You just got some bad information.

      Just today I had our local electric Co-op tell a mutual client that they don’t need $1M of liability insurance for a Tier 2 (over 10kW) Interconnection – that only the contractor does. That is absolutely false. The homeowner needs the liability insurance required to enter into an interconnection agreement. The contractor only needs to have the statutorily required insurance coverage (far lower), and that has nothing to do with the interconnection application or process.

      The utility companies’ customer service reps are notoriously undereducated about the process. If you have a reputable solar contractor, they are your best source of true and accurate information. We do this every day!

  • John Britz says:

    It may work mechanically by being bi-directional but if am I correct on my billing question above?

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      No, you are not correct. The inspector you spoke with doesn’t know what they are talking about. You are billed based on the Net figure on your meter. Upon reading the meter they take the current Net amount and subtract the prior Net amount to get your current period billed usage. See my prior comment with a copy of my bill for a further explanation.

      • Jason Szumlanski says:

        I should also note that another thing the inspector told you is not correct. The Delivered (DL) figure is the amount of energy the utility delivered to you, not the amount of excess solar energy you delivered to the utility. Received (RC) is the excess solar energy that was received by the utility from you.

  • John Britz says:

    A FPL inspector recently explained to me that my monthly bill will be based upon kw-hrs received (RC) and not on the net amount consumed (NT). He went on to advise that the amount delivered (DL) to the grid would be “sold” and credited at a discounted rate per calendar year. What you are describing here would amount to a reversible meter and, if I am correct, a bit misleading.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      Another quick note – a bi-directional meter is reversible. It “spins” in both directions. In one direction it records RC. In the other direction, it records DL. Then it calculates and displays the net amount (NT).

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      @John, the inspector is wrong. You are billed based on the net amount consumed. If your net amount at the end of a calendar year is negative (you produce more than you consume), you receive a credit based on the COG-1 tariff, otherwise known as the avoided cost rate, or colloquially known as the wholesale rate. That only applies if you “over-produce” on an annual basis, and has nothing to do with monthly billing. Here is a copy of my most recent bill with annotations explaining how it works.

      FPL Netmetering Bill

      Or you can download in PDF format.

  • Robert Mikolak says:

    Got a net meter that was set at 3000kw at the start guy said this would be compensated.or all add up..i dont see how this should of been started there.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      I think you mean 3000kwh, but it doesn’t matter. They will record the starting figure and you will just pay based on the net change from the starting point.the meter doesn’t ”zero out” after each billing period. You are just billed based on the comparison of ending value minus starting value.

  • Gerry Murphy says:

    I live in southern Florida. The days are mostly sunny with very few cloudy days. The REC on my solar meter has not exceeded 64 for 2 weeks (Feb.17 to March 3). Is there something wrong?

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      It’s possible that something is wrong, but it is equally as likely that you are just consuming all of the solar energy you are producing at the time it is being produced. If your solar energy system is small relative to your energy needs, you might never send energy back to the grid because you are consuming all of it. This is particularly likely for pool homes or other homes that have steady and continuous power needs throughout the day.

  • Jeff says:

    For the first time since our net meter was installed, and I turned our system on November 14, 2014, we have made more energy than we have used in total. I was pretty excited to look at our net meter this evening and see the negative amount displayed; however, it was not negative. It cycled back to the largest number the meter can display. Please tell me that our electricity supplier is not going to charge us for 99,995 kW/hr’s?!?!

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      That’s fantastic, Jeff, and congratulations! I think they will figure it out, but if you get a big bill (over $10,000) I’m sure you will be able to resolve it wit a phone call.

  • Anthony Yurgil says:

    On the demand (MAX) on an old meter it would show the kw used every 1/2 hr.
    On the new bi-directional it shows the amount every month.
    It doesn’t really matter but can fpl make it update on the half hr like the old one.

  • Anthony yurgil says:

    On my meter it shows the peak kw but it resets once a month instead of 15 or 30 min.
    Is there some way they can change it at fpl

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      First, peak KW has nothing to do with solar production. This is a measure of maximum usage (demand) during the billing period, and corresponds to how much you are billed for demand when you are on a demand tariff. It shows you the most power you have consumed consistently during any 30 (or 15) minute period. This is the necessary and intended operation of this measurement and it cannot be changed. I’m not sure why you would want it to be changed.

  • David Coleman #67344-18814 says:

    The explanation says the del and rec are in Kw-hrs and show the total energy since the meter was installed. But the picture shows Kw, which has to be power (not energy) being currently consumed or delivered. Please correct.

    Does the Kw-hrs display show the net (delivered – received), total (delivered+received) or only delivered energy?.
    Is the Kw-hrs display programmable by PF&L to show net, total or delivered energy.

    The verbiage under the picture of the meter is confusing. I do not believe the meter can know how much the local solar panels have generated, so only net, total or delivered can be displayed. Please reword.

    • Jason Szumlanski says:

      The meter cycles through several displays. The one shown in the image shows kilowatt-hours delivered (the large numbers). The .859 kW figure is the instantaneous power draw.

      As the meter display cycles, it shows delivered, received, and net.

      You are correct that the utility cannot see total consumption, nor the solar power/energy generated. I changed the wording from “addition to” to “excess of” and now it should be more clear.

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